Podcast: Two educators teach us how to love a good argument
Veteran educators Abi Dauber Sterne and Robbie Gringras talk about the art of fighting and the stories that inspire disagreement
Welcome to this week’s Times Will Tell, the weekly podcast from The Times of Israel.
This week, host Jessica Steinberg speaks with Abi Dauber Sterne and Robbie Gringras, two Israel-based educators and long-time professional collaborators.
Gringras and Dauber Sterne have just written a book, “Stories for the Sake of Argument,” a collection of 24 tales designed to provoke constructive disagreements about Israel and other touchy topics.
The aim is to teach readers more about themselves, each other and the world at large, with a how-to book of stories that address various controversial issues, taking place primarily in Israel but with universal themes.
They tackle subjects such as religious freedom in Israel, demands of history, issues of social media, praying at the Western Wall, Arab-Israeli voting issues, refugees, racial profiling and the list goes on.
During the podcast, Dauber Sterne and Gringras discuss their working process, how they chose their subjects and the ultimate aims of this how-to-argue book.

Some of their subjects hit close to home for each of them, and they also speak about their own struggles with arguments and how to conduct a decent fight at the dinner table.
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