From the Hartman Institute Promoted Podcast

Holding it Together – with Donniel Hartman

What's the role of an educator in times of moral emergency? How can we resist turning loyalty into a litmus test for empathy? Yehuda Kurtzer and Donniel Hartman on leadership during trauma.

Family and friends attend the funeral of late IDF soldier Bezalel Yehoshua Mosbacher, at the Mount Herzl military cemetery in Jerusalem, July 27, 2025. He died from his wounds after being injured in combat in the southern Gaza Strip. (Chaim Goldberg/Flash90)

What does it mean to be “okay” when your community is not? What is the role of an educator in times of moral emergency? And how can we resist turning loyalty into a litmus test for empathy?

In this far-reaching and emotionally charged conversation recorded live in Jerusalem, Yehuda Kurtzer and Donniel Hartman reflect on what it means to lead the Hartman Institute in a moment of profound trauma.

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