Why Isn’t Tisha B’Av Working?
This day of national reckoning with our collective failures asks us to mourn as a means of preventing future tragedy. Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi discuss its current relevance.

The ninth day of the Hebrew month of Av (Tisha B’Av) commemorates the destruction of the two Temples and the exile from the land of Israel. It is a day of national reckoning with our collective sins and failures asking us to mourn as a means of preventing future tragedy. How realistic is that expectation? And if Tisha B’Av isn’t working, how do we encourage a culture of collective introspection in our increasingly polarized society?
Join Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi as they explore whether national sovereignty is a condition for collective penitence and spiritual renewal:
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