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Peres: Netanyahu was never sincere about making peace

Ex-president says PM’s overtures have never ‘escaped the domain of talking,’ and warns against his notion of continually ‘living by the sword’

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and President Shimon Peres seen during a ceremony laying a founding stone for the National Memorial Hall for IDF victims of war on Mount Herzl in Jerusalem on April 30, 2014. (Photo credit: David Vaaknini/POOL/Flash 90)
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and President Shimon Peres seen during a ceremony laying a founding stone for the National Memorial Hall for IDF victims of war on Mount Herzl in Jerusalem on April 30, 2014. (Photo credit: David Vaaknini/POOL/Flash 90)

AP — Over a seven-decade career in politics, Shimon Peres has helped guide Israel through wars and existential threats. But now, with the country embroiled in a new wave of violence, the 92-year-old elder statesman worries that if its leaders do not get serious about pursuing peace with the Palestinians, it will be in an eternal state of war and will risk losing its Jewish majority.

In an interview with The Associated Press on Monday, Peres said that Netanyahu’s peace overtures have never “escaped the domain of talking.

“A politician and a government should be judged by one way only, on the record of what you do or did, not on what you say,” he said.

The former president made no secret of his belief that the values he and the assassinated prime minister Yitzhak Rabin inherited from Israel’s founding father, David Ben-Gurion, were in jeopardy.

Netanyahu accepted the concept of a Palestinian state in 2009, but with strict caveats and limits on that state’s control over its territory and security. He has since said that a state would not be founded during his term, and that the prospects for peace may be more distant still.

In recent weeks, Netanyahu accused Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas of inciting the current wave of Palestinian attacks and recently said Israelis had to accept that peace was unlikely and they would have to continue “living by the sword.”

Former president Shimon Peres speaks during an interview with The Associated Press in Jerusalem, November 2, 2015. (AP/Dan Balilty)
Former president Shimon Peres speaks during an interview with The Associated Press in Jerusalem, November 2, 2015. (AP/Dan Balilty)

Those comments clearly rankled Peres, who had previously negotiated on Netanyahu’s behalf with Abbas and still considers the Palestinian leader Israel’s best potential partner for peace.

“The alternative to two states is a continued war and nobody can maintain a war forever. If you say we should live on our sword don’t forget that there are other swords as well,” he said.

“Better to have a Jewish state on part of the land than have the whole land without the Jewish state,” he said. “Israel should implement the two-state solution for her own sake because if we should lose our majority, and today we are almost equal, we cannot remain a Jewish state or a democratic state.

“That’s the main issue, and to my regret they (the government) do the opposite.”

Peres negotiated the first interim peace accord with the Palestinians in 1993, known as the Oslo Accords, which set into motion a partition plan that gave the Palestinians limited self-rule. But after a fateful six-month period in 1995-96 that included Rabin’s assassination, a spate of Palestinian suicide bombings and Peres’s own election loss to Netanyahu, many began to question the prospects for peace.

Today, several senior members of Netanyahu’s government have declared Oslo dead, Abbas irrelevant and a Palestinian state nothing but a dangerous fantasy. Several ministers openly advocate annexing much of the West Bank, territory that Palestinians want for their future state.

Peres has filled nearly every position in Israeli public life since he became the director-general of the Defense Ministry at the age of 25 and spearheaded the development of Israel’s nuclear program. A protégé of Ben-Gurion, Peres was first elected to parliament in 1959.

He has since held every major cabinet post — including defense, finance and foreign affairs — and served three brief stints as prime minister. His key role in the first Israeli-Palestinian peace accord earned him a Nobel Peace Prize — along with Rabin and Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat — and stature abroad as a revered statesman.

Since finishing his seven-year term as president last summer, Peres has continued promoting peace and development in the Middle East through his non-governmental Peres Peace Center.

A self-described eternal optimist, Peres says he doesn’t like to think of the past, calling it a “waste of time.”

But on the occasion of the 20th anniversary of Rabin’s killing by a Jewish extremist opposed to his peace efforts, he candidly recalled the night that many see as a turning point in Israeli history.

The night of the murder: (From right) Prime minister Yitzhak Rabin, Miri Aloni, foreign minister Shimon Peres and Knesset speaker Shevah Weiss sing a Song for Peace at the end of a rally in Tel Aviv on Saturday, November 4, 1995. Rabin was assassinated as he left the rally minutes later. (AP photo)
The night of the murder: (From right) Prime minister Yitzhak Rabin, Miri Aloni, foreign minister Shimon Peres and Knesset speaker Shevah Weiss sing a Song for Peace at the end of a rally in Tel Aviv on Saturday, November 4, 1995. Rabin was assassinated as he left the rally minutes later. (AP photo)

He said the massive peace rally in Tel Aviv on Nov. 4, 1995 was the happiest day in Rabin’s life and the best moment in their decades-long tortured rivalry. “We were in a total agreement and really we were encouraged,” he said.

He said moments before they were set to leave the stage together in a show of unity, Israel’s Shin Bet security agency informed them of a threat to both their lives — from an Arab, not a Jew. Peres descended the stairs ahead of Rabin and stood in front of the open door of his car when the three deadly shots rang out. His security guards shoved him into the vehicle and whisked him away.

At the hospital, doctors informed Peres that Rabin had died and he broke the news to Rabin’s widow, Leah. Then they both saw the body and he kissed Rabin on the forehead.

“His face was happy, like a man who finally got complete rest,” he said. “I am sure that if he were alive he would have made peace with the Palestinians as well.”

Times of Israel staff contributed to this report.

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