Says 'I don't really care' that Dermer got 'a little upset'

Trump envoy defends his direct talks with Hamas, says US ‘not an agent of Israel’

In flurry of interviews, Adam Boehler says he believes Hamas will ultimately lay down its weapons, forgo political power; hopes for deal to free hostages within weeks

US presidential envoy for hostage affairs Adam Boehler speaks during a ceremony to raise the Hostage and Wrongful Detainee flag at the US State Department in Washington, March 6, 2025. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci)
US presidential envoy for hostage affairs Adam Boehler speaks during a ceremony to raise the Hostage and Wrongful Detainee flag at the US State Department in Washington, March 6, 2025. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci)

US hostage envoy Adam Boehler on Sunday defended his direct talks with officials in the Hamas terror group, pushing back against private but intense criticism from Jerusalem, in a spate of interviews to American and Israeli media.

Some of Boehler’s remarks further annoyed senior Israeli officials, who told The Times of Israel they were surprised to hear the envoy comment that the US is “not an agent of Israel.”

The direct US-Hamas talks, held in parallel to indirect negotiations mediated by Qatar and Egypt, focused on releasing the American hostages still captive in Gaza, though Boehler stressed that the ultimate goal was the release of all the hostages.

“We weren’t prepared to just sit back for two weeks,” Boehler told Israel’s Channel 12, refusing to specify when his meetings with Hamas began or how many took place.

“You’ve got a real chance for some movement and seeing hostages home in the next few weeks,” he continued.

Asked by Channel 12 whether he “realistically” thinks “that Hamas would eventually agree to lay down its weapons and not be part of Gaza’s political future,” he answered: “I do believe that.”

While his meetings focused on the sole living American hostage Edan Alexander, along with the bodies of four slain American hostages, Boehler stressed that the talks were meant to lead to a wider deal for all the hostages.

“You do not need to have fear that the president of the United States, or I, or anyone in our administration will forget you,” he said, addressing the Israeli public.

Speaking to Kan news, Boehler described what he called a Hamas proposal that would see a five- to ten-year truce with Israel, during which the terror group would disarm and forego political power in Gaza.

Hamas “suggested exchanging all prisoners… and a five-year to ten-year truce where Hamas would lay down all weapons and where the US, as well as other countries, would ensure that there are no tunnels, there’s nothing taken on the military side, and that Hamas is not involved in politics going forward.”

He called the proposal “not a bad first offer.”

A tent camp for displaced Palestinians is set up amid destroyed buildings in the west of Al-Shati camp, west of Gaza City, on Monday, March 3, 2025. (AP Photo/Jehad Alshrafi)

Amid concerns that the White House is prioritizing the release of American hostages over Israeli ones, the US envoy reassured the Israeli public that the Trump administration intends to get both “Americans and Israelis out, our commitment is full.”

Boehler told CNN in an interview earlier in the day that a “long-term truce” could be on the horizon, in which “we forgive prisoners, where Hamas lays down their arms, where they agree that they’re not part of the political party going forward.”

Hamas to date has not pledged to lay down its arms or surrender political power.

Asked on Channel 12 about a reported proposal by mediators for an expanded two-month ceasefire and the release of 10 living hostages, he declined to confirm anything but said, “It’s a possible solution.”

Israel was set to send a negotiating team to Qatar on Monday for talks regarding the future of the ceasefire and hostage release deal in Gaza.

Boehler told Channel 12 that the state of negotiations “is very well set up for the Israelis to do well” in the talks.

The direct US-Hamas discussions broke with a decades-old policy by Washington against negotiating with groups that the US has designated terrorist organizations. Hamas has been proscribed as such since 1997.

Boehler told CNN that US President Donald Trump had signed off on his talks with Hamas ahead of time, but then appeared to walk the claim back, clarifying to Channel 12 that the pre-approval came from “a group of folks” in the White House.

A source familiar with the matter said Trump’s Mideast envoy Steve Witkoff had approved the talks.

Boehler said that he understood why Israel might be upset over the talks, noting that he had spoken to Strategic Affairs Minister Ron Dermer, a close aide to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, about the contacts.

“I spoke with Ron, and I’m sympathetic [to his concerns],” he told CNN. “He has someone that he doesn’t know well making direct contact with Hamas. Maybe I would see them and say, ‘Look, they don’t have horns growing out of their head. They’re actually guys like us. They’re pretty nice guys,’” Boehler said, apparently referring to officials in the terror group.

Minister of Strategic Affairs Ron Dermer in the Knesset, January 22, 2025 (Yonatan Sindel/Flash90)

“He doesn’t know me, and there are big stakes,” Boehler said of Dermer. “He lives in a country where, if it sets certain precedents, then it will hurt or help a lot of other people.”

Therefore, “I understand the consternation and the concern. I wasn’t upset. At the same time, we’re the United States. We’re not an agent of Israel. We have specific interests at play. We did communicate back and forth. We had very specific parameters which we [followed],” Boehler went on.

What he wanted to do, he said, “is jumpstart some negotiations that were in a very fragile place.”

US hostage envoy Adam Boehler in a CNN interview on March 9, 2025. (CNN screenshot)

He added that he “wanted to say to Hamas, ‘What is the endgame that you want here? Not the dream endgame, but what do you think is realistic at this point?'”

But he said that it was clear to Jerusalem that his interaction with Hamas would not sway the talks against Israel. “Israel knows walking out of that, that it’s not like Hamas got the world [in the talks] because I thought they were a bunch of nice guys,” Boehler said.

Boehler later commented on X: “Hamas is a terrorist organization that has murdered thousands of innocent people. They are BY DEFINITION BAD people.”

A Western official told The Times of Israel on Friday that Dermer had “lashed out” at Boehler upon learning of the talks after the fact. But the envoy insisted in several of his interviews on Sunday that Israel had been informed about them.

In an interview on Fox News, Boehler said he was able to put Dermer “at ease” and convince him “that I wouldn’t go off the rails.”

Boehler was also asked on CNN what it was like for him, as a Jewish American, to sit down with “antisemitic murderers.” In response, he said that his job required him to have dialogue “with anybody, and that includes a lot of people that I would classify as not-so-good people, to help other Americans.”

Sitting with people like Hamas, he went on, when “you know what they’ve done, it’s hard not to think of it.” However, that was not “the most productive” approach, he said. “The most productive [approach] is to realize that every piece of a person is a human and to identify with the human elements of those people and then build from there. But it definitely feels a little odd knowing what they really are.”

Asked if he’d meet Hamas officials again, Boehler responded, “You never know. Sometimes you’re in the area, and you drop by.”

In yet another interview, with Israel’s Channel 13 news, Boehler was more combative toward Israel’s disapproval, saying he didn’t “really care” about Dermer’s objections to his direct talks with Hamas, while referring to Palestinian prisoners as “hostages” and criticizing Israel’s release of large numbers of them.

“I don’t really care about that that much — no offense to Dermer,” Boehler said. “If it was a big deal every time Dermer got a little bit upset… Ron might have a lot of big deals every day.

“I love Ron. We’ll work together again. It was great. I take no offense because he was doing what he was supposed to do,” he said. “I don’t mean to injure Ron or anyone else… Dermer runs a country with Bibi that is on its own, where they are exchanging massive amounts of hostages for one person. And I will say, it’s a lot of hostages. We wouldn’t do that deal in the United States.

“I respect and understand his position. However, we also have our own interests in the US, and I believe and hope that some of those interactions [with Hamas] can speed things up,” he added.

The senior American official, who has repeatedly referred to Israeli hostages as “prisoners,” appeared to be using the term “hostages” to describe Palestinian prisoners, adopting rhetoric common with Hamas but considered offensive in Israel and among many Americans. Hamas has referred to civilians kidnapped on October 7, including children and the elderly, as prisoners who were “arrested.”

‘Listen to your boss,’ ex-ambassador Friedman tells Boehler

Donald Trump’s former ambassador to Israel David Friedman was critical of Boehler’s efforts on Sunday.

“This past week, President Trump brilliantly presented Hamas with a binary choice: release all the hostages and surrender, or be destroyed. It is the only path to ending the war,” Friedman wrote on X.

“If I heard [Boehler] correctly on the Sunday news shows, he took the unprecedented step to meet with Hamas to consider a third way — whether a deal could be struck where Hamas ‘would not be involved in governing Gaza,'” he continued. But Friedman called any agreement with Hamas “a waste of time” that “will never be kept.”

“Attempting one is beneath the dignity of the United States,” Friedman wrote. “Adam, I know you mean well, but listen to your boss. The choice must remain binary.”

Trump himself has defended the talks, telling reporters last week that they are to Israel’s benefit because their goal is to free Israeli hostages.

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