Pope decries children’s deaths in Gaza, deplores lack of progress toward peace

Francis says IDF bombing of schools in Gaza under the ‘presumption’ of striking Hamas terrorists is ‘ugly’

Pope Francis takes part in an interreligious meeting with young people at the Catholic Junior College in Singapore on September 13, 2024. (Tiziana FABI / AFP)
Pope Francis takes part in an interreligious meeting with young people at the Catholic Junior College in Singapore on September 13, 2024. (Tiziana FABI / AFP)

Pope Francis on Friday decried the deaths of Palestinian children in Israeli military strikes in Gaza, calling bombings of schools, on the “presumption” of striking Hamas terrorists, “ugly.”

On a flight back to Rome from Singapore, the pontiff expressed doubt that either Israel or Hamas, now at war for 11 months, were seeking to end the conflict.

“I am sorry to have to say this,” the pope said. “But I do not think that they are taking steps to make peace.”

Francis was speaking in a press conference with journalists after a demanding 12-day tour across Southeast Asia and Oceania. He said he speaks on the phone with members of a Catholic parish in Gaza “every day” and “they tell me ugly things, difficult things.”

“Please, when you see the bodies of killed children, when you see that, under the presumption that some guerrillas are there, a school is bombed, this is ugly,” the 87-year-old pontiff said. “It is ugly.”

Israel says Gaza terror groups regularly and systematically operate from within schools and other civilian sites, using innocents as human shields with the express purpose of increasing civilian casualties during the war. It says it takes steps to ensure its strikes on such sites are precisely targeting the combatants and to limit harm to civilians.

The pope, who has supported calls for a ceasefire in the conflict and for the release of Israeli hostages held by Hamas, said: “Sometimes I think it’s a war that is too much, too much.”

Palestinians stand in the courtyard of the Al-Jawni (Jaouni) school after an Israeli air strike hit the site, in Nuseirat in the central Gaza Strip on September 11, 2024. (Eyad BABA / AFP)

The Israel-Hamas war was triggered by Hamas’s attack on October 7, when the group’s terrorists murdered some 1,200 people, mostly civilians, and took 251 hostages, according to Israeli tallies.

The Hamas-run Gaza health ministry says more than 40,000 people in the Strip have been killed or are presumed dead in the fighting so far, though the toll cannot be verified and does not differentiate between civilians and fighters. Israel says it has killed some 17,000 combatants in battle and another 1,000 terrorists inside Israel on October 7.

The United Nations said on Thursday that the war has left Gaza’s economy “in ruins.”

The pope spoke about a range of other issues during the 40-minute press conference. He criticized both former US President Donald Trump and Vice President Kamala Harris’ policies and said US Catholics would have to “choose the lesser evil” when they vote in November, without elaborating.

‘Happy’ with China deal

Francis also said a Vatican deal with China over the appointment of Catholic bishops in the communist country was showing good results, indicating it will almost certainly be extended when it comes up for renewal this fall.

People wave Chinese flags as Pope Francis waves to the crowd from the popemobile during the weekly general audience on June 19, 2024 at St Peter’s square in The Vatican. (Andreas SOLARO / AFP)

The pope said the results of the 2018 deal, in which China gets some input into the selection of Catholic bishops, “are good.”

“I am happy with the dialogue with China,” said the pontiff. “We are working with good will.”

Conservative Catholics have sharply criticized the agreement as handing over too much control to China. The Vatican says the accord resolves a decades-long split between an underground church swearing loyalty to the Vatican and the state-supervised Catholic Patriotic Association.

The deal has never been published, but only described by diplomatic officials. The Vatican says the pope retains final decision-making power in appointment of Chinese bishops.

Paris, Argentina, clergy abuse

The pope also firmly denied a French media report that he would go to Paris in December for the reopening of Notre Dame Cathedral.

A small French outlet had reported the pope would go for the cathedral’s planned December 8 reopening ceremony, five years after a devastating fire. The pontiff also said on Friday he was still considering whether to travel this year to Argentina, his home country.

Security forces patrol outside Notre Dame Cathedral during the 2024 Summer Olympics, August 6, 2024, in Paris, France. (AP Photo/Natacha Pisarenko)

“I would like to go,” said Francis, who is the first pope from the Americas and before becoming pontiff served as the archbishop of Buenos Aires. “But it is not yet decided. There are some things to resolve first.”

The pope said that if he did go to Argentina, he would like to make a stop on the way from Rome in the Canary Islands, an autonomous Spanish territory off the coast of northwestern Africa. It has become an increasingly popular destination for migrants braving an Atlantic crossing to try to reach Europe.

Caring for migrants has been a key theme of Francis’ 11-year papacy. He made his first visit as pope to the Italian island of Lampedusa, also confronting an influx of migrants.

“There is a situation there with migrants, who are coming by sea,” he said of the Canaries. “And I would like to be close to the government and people.”

Francis was also asked about Catholic clergy sexual abuse, and the case of a French priest, known as Abbe Pierre, who was long celebrated for his work with homeless people but was later revealed to have been accused of sexually assaulting at least seven women. He died in 2007.

The organization Pierre founded, Emmaus, disclosed an additional 17 testimonies against the late priest on September 6.

The pope said he did not know when the Vatican had first become aware of the allegations. “Certainly, after his death, surely,” said Francis. “But before, I don’t know.”

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